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Al-Qaeda Training Manual Found In Iraq

The document, apparently written before the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, could bolster the Bush administration's contention that Saddam Hussein was providing support for Islamic extremists who were plotting against America.

The training manual warns, in stark how-to terms, of the dangers of "information leaks," and instructs Arab operatives inside Afghanistan to dress like Afghan tribesmen, to avoid being followed ("Routine is the enemy of security"), to always be armed, and "to behave as if enemies would strike at any moment."

Haven't we been told ad infinitum that Islamic extremists would never cooperate with 'secular' Ba'athists?

Isn't that idea sounding sillier and sillier all the time?

Posted by Ken McCracken · 6 July 2006 06:37 AM

Comments

bored pentagon intern finds random piece of nothing on Iraqi hardrive, neo con media goes ballistic.

We were scammed into war. the intelligence was "fixed around the policy". This is in al capones vault part 2: the saddam dossier.

Posted by: lester at July 6, 2006 02:29 PM

You are in deep denial.

An al-Qaeda training manual found on an Iraqi computer is a big deal - it blows a huge hole in the left-wing myth that Saddam never supported al-Qaeda.

I suspect your defensive reaction is an acknowledgement that this is not good news for Democrats.

Posted by: Ken McCracken at July 6, 2006 02:37 PM

Whoa, the kooks are out early -- I wonder what makes them that way?

Little by little to complete picture is getting clearer, despite the New al-Qaeda Times.

Hey you looked at the NYTimes stock price? They may not make it through another 2 years.

Posted by: bill at July 6, 2006 05:30 PM

the CIA probably has the same manual. Look, they LIED. there was no meeting in Prague with mohammed atta. They were LOOKING for connections and they nuanced some random things into useable propaganda.

Where are the photos of saddam hussein at al queda training camps, smiling approvingly? Where are the video tapes of nuclear warheads being lowered into bunkers in Iraq? stuff that could legitamatly be called evidence.

who cares about the left wing "mantra". people are dying in a war. It's not about the cliches of the blogosphere. We're paying 5 billion a week in Iraq and afghanistan. Those are your tax dollars. You deserve more for that money than non stories like this.

Posted by: lester at July 6, 2006 06:23 PM

You deserve more for that money than non stories like this

lester, if tomorrow it was proved that every piece of evidence that was put forth to the UN and everyone else was true - you'd still give it a hearty yawn, and call it non-news, just like your liberal buddies.

Why now do you care now about photos of Saddam giving Al-Zaquarwi a hand job? Really?

The fact is that it does not matter if they find more WMDs tomorrow, or links to whomever - it doesn't matter anymore to have in front of us evidence that would solidify a 3 or 4 year old decision. Does it? Would anyone on the left believe it anyway? Would you?

There was a thread about a Professor in Michigan who's Islam 101 course included the theory that 9/11 was all a governmental conspiracy - I was shocked to see how many assholes are still out there spouting bullshit about how the government did it, etc. If they did that, why didn't they just plant WMDs all over Iraq? Conspiracy aside - if the intelligence community LIED to all of us willingly as the latest PBS Frontline special would have you believe, why didn't they just plant some WMDs there? I mean, if they are so willing to lie about non news like a threat to the U.S. and all?

Heaven forbid any good news being published by any media outlet for the simple reason that the left wing idiots in the US and elsewhere wouldn't believe it anyway.

There is a lot of construction and infrastructure rebuilding in Iraq, damn near around the clock, new Iraqi companies forming all over the place but most of the left would chalk it up to propaganda if it were reported in the first place.

I work in the communications business and have been working with several companies who are taking part in rebuilding the transmission networks in Iraq and Afghanistan. None of it is reported because, frankly, it doesn't involve a sensationalized body count or an explosion.

Posted by: snowballs at July 6, 2006 09:28 PM

who was that guy Faruq Hijazi?

Posted by: christian at July 6, 2006 09:44 PM

I smell a troll!

Posted by: christian at July 6, 2006 09:47 PM

I love the Bush lied mantra. Kinda tired and backward looking, but it still works. Plus it rhymes with "kids died" and looks good on the signs.

Let me explain a lie and a mistake. See, having Monica Lewinski going down on you and holding your cigars--that is a mistake. Telling a court under oath that you did not have relations with her, that is a lie.

Intelligence was flawed before 9-11 and far from perfect. That is why we did not stop the terrorists before the hit us. And intelligence on Iraq has been flawed since 1991. It is a closed society and we did our best. But keep in mind that for 50 years we thought the Russian Military was a huge threat and the put on Parades in Moscow, only to find out after the fact that their tanks had no gas and many did not even run. They had no spare parts and many of their planes were not capable of flying. Why did they lie and attempt to convince the world they were more powerful than they were? Silly rabbit, as a way to maintain their power and appear to be a threat as a deterent.

So here is what we know for a fact:
--Saddam lied repeatedly about having and then not having WMD's to confuse the world community. He hid from inspectors and played cat and mouse for 12 years.
--We invaded Iraq using the best intelligence that we had which has several flaws.
--We are attempting to reform the NSA, FBI, CIA, and other DOD agencies that are among the most secretive and hidden in the world to correct the problems.
--The UN Security Counsel and both houses of Congress had a chance to stop this war both with the purse and by voting down the original authorization.
--Iraq is now a huge safe haven for terrorists. It was in 2001 when Al Zarqawi originally set up camp and it remains so now. AZ was there before the invasion and making plans to take the war to Iraq. We did not create Islamic terrorism, it was alive and well. It just shifted locations.
--If we leave now, things will get far worse, both at home and abroad. It is a bad policy move to leave Iraq now, despite whatever mistakes have been made before and during the War.

So why do the lefties keep falling back on the Bush lied crap? As if to say that American policies are predicated on whether the President made a mistake or not? Clearly our government in hindsight has made many mistakes. There are conspiracy theorists that think FDR allowed Pearl Harbor to happen so we would fight in WWII. But at the end of the day, President Bush is the leader of the country and we chose him to lead. The left has 2006 and 2008 to come up with a better strategy and defeat him, but if Bush lied to get us into the war is the strategy that leads to the cut and run solution, the left's leadership sucks.

Posted by: Justin B at July 6, 2006 09:57 PM

I have pictures of training camps in Iraq taken by a friend of mine near one of the borders. I can send them if you like. I don't think they ever confirmed nor completely denied them as possibly harboring foreign insurgents. I could never understand how this idea was completely abandoned ... even after the 9/11 commission report. We dealt with a lunatic dictator for years that even had body doubles to trick us into believing it was really him. What makes him such a saint in this department? A report written by a bunch of DC suits on old intelligence (or lack thereof)?

Posted by: Greensickle at July 7, 2006 07:43 AM

guys, stick to immigration and gay marriage. You have no clue about this stuff. You're like a little puppy dog who gets all excited anytime one of these stories comes up. You always think we're turning a corner in Iraq. it's been 3 and a half years. we aren't turning any corners any time soon. They aren't standing up and we aren't standing down.

snowballs- nice collection of straw men and blogosphere cliches.

I don't think Clinton made a mistake getting a blowjob or lying about it. it had nothing to do with politics. The mistake was making a federal case out of it in an attempt to impeach him.

the rest of your laundry list just proves my point about what conservatives should and should ot talk about.

Posted by: lester at July 7, 2006 11:38 AM

thanks lester for clearing things up for us. Your almost pretty good at being a troll. keep it up:)

Posted by: christian at July 7, 2006 06:32 PM

the rest of your laundry list just proves my point about what conservatives should and should ot talk about.

Of course, I forgot, you invited us here with your ironically noteworthy comment about it being non news.

Strawman, my ass.

Posted by: snowballs at July 7, 2006 07:57 PM

lest is best

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