Kinky is a Dud!...

Kinky's quote is probably "incoherent" because, as posted above, it's taken completely out of context. In one of Kinky's books, he refers to New York resembling a "Negro talking to himself." He was asked about that quote in an interview. A few minutes later, he made a joke about the quote - it wasn't a very funny joke, but it's ridiculous of you to post the line without any of the surrounding context.

Literally nobody who knows Kinky thinks he's a racist. Seriously.

I don't think he's a racist, just a total idiot and an embarrassment. And your explanation is almost as incoherent and weak as Kinky himself. Congrats on that.

Kinky responds differently depending upon the audience, similar to democrat candidates. To an Austin audience, he is a joking hipster. To a conservative radio talk show audience, he is John Wayne. I try to guess the motivation of people whose car bears a Kinky bumper sticker - are they trying to seem rebellious, or independent? Most of these folks are not young and don't otherwise seem to be acting out.

I'm not sure what part of my explanation you found difficult to follow; in any case, it wasn't my intention to confuse. Long story short: your quote takes the statement wildly out of context. If you think the guy's an idiot, surely there are better ways of demonstrating it than through sloppy, sloppy fact-checking?

Simply: there can be zero explanation or context for his comments. Your explanation that his bizarre (and racist) punishment for sex offenders was merely taken from one of his own books is hilariously weak.

You don't get that?

I think if you re-read my first comment, you'll find that I didn't claim the quote you cite in your initial post was taken from one of Kinky's books.

Kinky was asked if he thought the word "negro" was racist, since he'd used the term in one of his books . Then he referenced the quote from one of his books later on in the interview. Obviously the statement is bizarre if you have no idea of the context. In truth, it's a little bizarre with context. But that doesn't excuse posting the last bit of a conversation without the surrounding information, in my opinion.

Hey Jeremy - maybe you could find the full context of the quote so we can see how it actually shows it isn't racist or in extremely bad taste.

Maybe, too, you can find a clip or transcript of that radio interview where we can read or hear the joke that he told that really wasn't funny.

I don't know which is worse - your defense of Kinky's statement or being thrown in prison and throwing away the key and making them listen to Jeremy talking to himself.

Kinky isn't a racist, he's just a plain vanilla jackass. In the middle of his campaign, Kinky gave High Times (yes, the pro-pot legalization magazine) permission to re-publish just two months ago an article that Kinky had previously written. Ask your self, why would Kinky authorize the re-publication of this:

When I came to ... I asked. "Where am I?"

"Take it easy now, Kinkster," said Robert Young. "You've had a bad accident and you're in the Cedars of Tedium Hospital. Apparently you were run over by a bookmobile as you were coming out of a men's room in Denver, Colorado. To save your life we had to give you a transfusion using the blood of a person of the Negro persuasion."

"That's moderately unpleasant," I said.

"Well, there's a good side of things, too," said Robert Young. "Your welfare checks should start coming in a few weeks, and your penis just grew twelve inches. Ha-ha-ha."

I'm not saying it's racist; I'm saying either Kinky is STUPID or he WANTS to lose every black person's vote in Texas. He authorized this re-publication to run DURING THE CAMPAIGN. STUDPI, STUPID, STUPID!

Sure thing -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9mXTxEQI3A

This is the clip that was thrown up by an anti-Kinky website about a year ago. Whether or not the joke was in bad taste is up for debate. That said, there's no question (again, in my opinion) that it was a joke referring back to an earlier point in the conversation.

So, basically, the rebuttal to "Kinky is a joke" is "Kinky is a joke." Congrats on the Jesse Ventura-lite candidate you've got there.

Actually, my rebuttal to Kinky is a joke would have been:

http://www.kinkyfriedman.com/issues

In your post, I was criticizing you accusing Kinky of incoherence when much of the incoherence was brought about by you posting one part of a longer dialogue.

Again, anyone who doesn't like Kinky is free to do so, for reasons real or imagined. But responsible - or, you know, not kinda douchey - bloggers should try, I think, not to perpetuate a misunderstanding created largely by sloppy research on their part into the context of things they post. You're not the only person who's posted this line out of context with the response "what the fuck?". Well, sir, the fuck is as follows: he was referring to something your editing left off.

Anyway, thanks for letting me respond. I really like your blog, just wanted to point out the inaccuracy in this one post.

You're welcome. Thanks for the differing viewpoint.

Come on!
Did any of you watch the gubernatorial debates?
Kinky came off as a caricature!
This guy has been slobbering a bib-full of "Texas size embarassment" in Texas for along time.

The debate was not a great political discourse, but it was moderately decent as reality TV and scored better than average as a game show.

High-Lights:

Kinky couldn't name any black people on his campaign staff except "Frank from Atlanta" who will be joining the Kinky campaing shortly.

Strayhorn couldn't name the president of Mexico.

Bell knows the Battle of the Alamo was fought in 1836.

Kinky wants to declare martial law in the border counties.

Strayhorn doesn't know how long welfare recipients get benefits.

Perry is OK with selling out Texas to a Spanish compant so long as the bribes are all fully disclosed.

Kinky thinks the internet is the work of Satan.

As much as many may want to say Kinky is great because everyone else says so, he is not funny and only makes a mark on the national scene because he has a funny name or because some Texas chronies give him attention. He is a one-trick-pony who longs to be a celebrity, but just isn't. He's comment on "a negro talking to himself" is no more than good old boy racism. It can only be funny if one is willing to entertain a racist stereotype. I have never seen Kinky pictured with a black person and the NAACP doesn't think his racial jokes are funny at all.

One poster said the quote was taken out of context. The only context that would make this acceptible would be this:

"Anyone who would use the phrase 'like a negro talking to himself' is an insensitive idiot who should never be in government at any level down to filing clerk."

I thought about voting for Kinky because all the candidates are jokes. Perry and Rylander speak for their own idiocy, Bell's is exposed when you look at his platitude campaign site. Bell even sings the praises of George Bush in his poll driven quest for votes. That's why I thought about voting for Kinky because he is a joke and admits it. But now that it is becoming clear that he is just a vulgar comedian celebrity wannabe trying to get more attention and laughs by playing to racial stereotypes, I realized I could save myself a half an hour by not voting for anyone for governor. My vote is for none of the above. Cheers!

Bell has asked him to drop out. While that is without any doubt politically motivated (and why wouldn't it be), I wonder if Chris Bell didn't guninely feel sorry for Friedman.