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Don Imus' Crime: Rapping While White

I suppose I should be describing Don Imus' 'nappy-headed hos' comment as reprehensible, disgusting, etcetera and so on . . . but I can't in all honesty bring myself to do it. On a scale of 1 to 10 it feels like about a 2.5 on the outrageous statement richter scale - and that is not nearly high enough for someone to get fired over. Rosie O'Donnell's 'truther' statements, and Barney Frank accusing President Bush of ethnic cleansing in New Orleans are far more outrageous and inflammatory, not the least because they both accused the President of heinously criminal behavior.

Yes, prostitution is also illegal, but it seems that in rap culture, calling someone a 'ho' does not mean someone is literally being accused of prostitution. In fact, from what I have seen from rap culture, calling someone a 'bitch' or a 'ho' is so common now it has become banal, and drained of all pernicious meaning. Unless it is a cranky white guy saying that about black women, and suddenly the term 'ho' is reinfused with supposedly outrageous content.

If Imus were black . . . would this even be an issue?

Is it really fair for two race-baiting, hate-filled black men, such as Al 'Crown Heights' Sharpton, and Jesse 'Hymietown' Jackson to point fingers at anyone about what they say? When Al Sharpton dresses down young black rappers about their misogynistic lyrics on his radio show as he did to Imus, and when Jesse Jackson organizes a boycott against Death Row Records, perhaps they will have regained a modicum of moral authority to even speak on such a matter.

Imus has thrown himself at the feet of and kissed the rings of these two race hustling extortionists - but when are we going to get sincere apologies from Sharpton, in particular? Mike Nifong has apologized for his 'errors in judgement' in the Duke non-rape case, but when are we going to get apologies from Nancy Grace, the New York Times, or the 88 Duke professors who proclaimed the preordained guilt of those three innocent white men?

The media has now turned me into a Don Imus supporter, even though I have never heard his show and frankly don't know much about him. I am opposed to this dreary, predictable media-directed kabuki theater that seeks to pit blacks against whites in a black-and-white morality tale. I am not cheering along with the self-righteous mob as they throw Imus onto the PC bonfire.

Posted by Ken McCracken · 12 April 2007 07:07 PM

Comments

Ken...Don't hold your breath waiting for Al Sharpton to apologize.

Posted by: zsa zsa at April 12, 2007 08:11 PM

I don't believe the Rutgers team has had as big of an impact as the Al Sharpton's are portraying. I don't think Al Sharpton will be happy until he has his head on a platter??? He needs to focus on his own racist people. The rainbow coalition would do well to push the rappers that made this kind of language acceptable...AND Maxine Waters hopefully will get a talkin to from the rainbow coalition! She finds this kind of language acceptable... Hmmm? That's our liberal Congress! AND that is show biz!

Posted by: zsa zsa at April 13, 2007 07:04 AM

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!! Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have ruined lives without even a second thought (ie the boys from Duke) or an appology on their part. Now if they want to clean up the lanuage used to against the races ALL RACES they need not target just one disk jockey they need to target every record label that allows the so-called artist to use that language. And why is it that it is ok for someone of the same race to use that language against eachother in jest or not but the minute someone outside of the race uses it sirens go off? Also if say a black shock jock uses a racial slur towards the white community who is going to scream for their firing and fight for the rights of the white community?

We have come to a time when people of all colors and creeds come together and respect eachother and let by gones be by gones. The mistakes of the ignorance of long ago have been hashed and re-hashed and yes we must learn from them but to continue to make people pay for things they had no control of breeds a new form of ignorance. We now have to learn that respect for ourselves and eachother no matter the race, creed, or disablity is what should be at hand. We need to be concerned with the divisions that are in this country in this time, if people haven’t noticed our nation is a mess and we are worried about a so-called shock jock that used a term that yes he should not have used but it used by others who have never been sanctioned in anyway. We have sports figures who our children look up to doing things illegal and immoral but that is not a problem for Mr. Sharpton and Mr. Jackson because they are not an outright ‘attack’ on our children. I think they need to be looking at how to fix some things inside the community as well how to ruin the lives of those outside the community.

We have be seeing in my opinion a reverse racism although I think that is not possible because racism defined is the nation that one’s own ethnic stock is superior and the discrimination or prejudice based on racism. So there can not be this so called reverse racism or reverse discrimination call it what it is plain and simple.

Am I proud of my ‘ethnic stock’? Sure why not but they are no better than anyone else. I want to be judged on my own merits not who my parents or grandparents are or the color of my skin or what part of the world my family came from over hundred and fifty to two hundrend years ago. I have worked hard to be the person I am.

Posted by: Katrina at April 13, 2007 08:32 AM

MSNBC should have stook behind Don Imus. Anyone who watches his show knows that nothing is sacred, and that's the fun of watching/listening. If he hadn't made a "racial" slur no one would have thought a thing about it. I've heard him insult just about everyone, including himself...fat, old, ugly, etc. etc. He even calls his wife a green ho!!

More important than that is to look at the good he's done on his show. He's pushed through bills for autism, our soldiers (immediate and long-term medical benefits when they return as well as higher pay and larger benefits to their families if, God forbid, they don't return), his ranch for kids with cancer (and the list goes on). Personally, he's made me much more politically savy because by watching his show I felt like I knew the politicians and where they stood rather than heard them in the "formal formats" we are accustomed to.

Whatever happened to freedom of speech? It appears that Blacks can say/or do anything, but Whites don't have the same priviledge. When did it become a liability to be white? Why isn't a heart-felt apology enough? If you've watched Imus' show you know he's not prejudice at all; he just made a crass statement and it snowballed from there.

Again, I feel that a great injustice has been done not only to Imus, but to the American people who enjoyed his show. I, among thousands of others, want him back. If there's a petition to reinstate Imus I would love to know about it.

Posted by: Angie Hicks at April 13, 2007 08:35 AM

i am very sick of white america playing prentend ,from the establishment of america your race has breed hate and seperatism , the dialogue don imus used is normal in your circle, thats why the shock of his termination was so broadley felt i assume it's ok at the country club! don imus didn't forget he was on the air ,it was not a mistake it was normal conversation. amongst his listners,*shame on you* then you double back and try to gain points by lashing black rappers. if you felt their dialogue was demeaning why did'nt you speak up long ago ,was it that it did not apply so you didn,t check the box. blak american people have been called nigger,negro,colored, black,coon,african american, all by your standards. who and what are we? when will we be just (american) how the hell can you be seperate but equal? we all are racist and you created this problem due to greed, lies, and capital gain. wake up white america you've been sleep walking.

Posted by: pamela riley at April 13, 2007 08:35 AM

Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson are now in charge of what we should listen to & will tell us what is right or wrong? That's a crock! Both men have bigger skeletons in their closets than Imus. What Imus said was wrong, but not Earth shattering compared to what many blacks, including Jesse & Al, said about the 3 innocent white students at Duke! Where is the outrage there? Why no apologies? Why isn't anyone being held accountable on that one? If you don't like what Imus had to say, DON'T watch!!!! I don't want the Jesse's & the Al's telling me what I can or can't watch. As llong as rap music is allowed to be made for children to listen to with FAR worse language & insults in it, then what Imus said is a mere drop in that large bucket. How many times are white people going to be called crackers or rednecks & there be no similar firestorms? It's BS. That is just as offensive. One more thing, stop playing the slavery card too. That one is 150 years gone & NO one on this planet now had anything to do with it! All this BS but the black community is only creating more racists, not improving relations.... the double standard now used over & over again is too obvious.

Posted by: G Washington at April 13, 2007 09:03 AM

and another thing the word nigger was used to degrade a race of people and to apply a form of seperation between white and black americans again all by your standards i cannot stress this enough - stop prentending white america with the phrase (why is it ok for them to use the n word but not us ) IF YOU WANT TO SAY NIGGER JUST SAY IT WHITE AMERICA) YOU! it's not like you don"t use it so stop looking for an excuse to say the word nigger. not a lot has changed since the racist founding fathers, the slave trade ,the auction block, the rapes, "strom thurman" and the likes. stop playing with yourself white america. GOD IS WATCHING! BUT IF YOU PREACH THIS NIGGER MESSAGE YOU PROBABLY DON'T BELIEVE IN HIM EITHER WHAT IF GOD WERE BLACK WOULD YOU LOVE AND SERVE HIM .NEVER MIND US, WE'VE ALREADY WORSHIPPED A CAUCASION GOD ACCORDING TO YOU - GOD IS WHITE. JUST IMAGINE BEING BLACK AND ACCEPTING EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DISHED TO YOU WITHOUT SAYING A WORD. NOW TELL ME WHO'S LIFE IS MORE LIKE CHRIST, HE WAS BEATEN, SPIT UPON LASHED ,CRUCIFIED ,AND HE DID'T SAY A WORD. WHITE AMERICA THE WORD IS FORGIVE ME MAYBE IF YOU APOLOGIZED FOR ALL THE WRONG YOU'VE DONE FOR PAST GENERATIONS MAYBE THIS WOULD'NT BE AN ISSUE.

Posted by: pamela riley at April 13, 2007 09:13 AM

Pamela...The reason things have not changed is because Black America act as if they personally have been slaves.??? The only way I can see that many of the Black Americans alive today have been enslaved is by Federal Government programs that have held many families hostage. What kind of Apology would you like, Pamela? Personally I don't feel responsible for what past generations have done. FORGIVE is up to each individual. Please FORGIVE my ancestors for their stupidity and cruel behavior! Does that help???

Posted by: zsa zsa at April 13, 2007 10:34 AM

Pamela...One more thing. Jesus was from the middle East and was a Jew. So, Jesus most likely had olive colored skin??? BUT if it makes you feel better & closer to God for him to be Black? Go for it!...

Posted by: zsa zsa at April 13, 2007 11:06 AM

Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson are now in charge of what we should listen to & will tell us what is right or wrong? That's a crock! Both men have bigger skeletons in their closets than Imus. What Imus said was wrong, but not Earth shattering compared to what many blacks, including Jesse & Al, said about the 3 innocent white students at Duke! Where is the outrage there? Why no apologies? Why isn't anyone being held accountable on that one? If you don't like what Imus had to say, DON'T watch!!!! I don't want the Jesse's & the Al's telling me what I can or can't watch. As llong as rap music is allowed to be made for children to listen to with FAR worse language & insults in it, then what Imus said is a mere drop in that large bucket. How many times are white people going to be called crackers or rednecks & there be no similar firestorms? It's BS. That is just as offensive. One more thing, stop playing the slavery card too. That one is 150 years gone & NO one on this planet now had anything to do with it! All this BS but the black community is only creating more racists, not improving relations.... the double standard now used over & over again is too obvious.

Posted by: G Washington at April 13, 2007 12:26 PM

Well said, G Washington!...

Posted by: zsa zsa at April 13, 2007 03:12 PM

Pamela, how do you know what white people say when you're not around? It doesn't sound like anything I've ever heard, and I'm 54 years old next month. I think you've got some cartoon going there.

Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at April 13, 2007 11:55 PM

Pamela,

My Lord is not white nor black nor red nor yellow, My Lord teaches tolerance,forgiveness, and understanding. Somethings I think you might need to revisit. If I wanted to I could have caused a HUGE stink at a comedy club about a year and a half ago but I didn't I let it go. I felt the comic had not a clue about where my name comes from no I am not black but I am a person of color (You see my Grandparents skin was red VERY red). My name is Katrina and that comic was talking about the hurricane and the devastion she cause "A sister trying take us all out" Yes I had many 'sisters' there of all colors and creeds but he was talking to those of African-American color. Was I hurt? Hell YES by that point I had every joke and even had children in my son's class calling me a murderess. But to hear that my name should be that of only a "Sister of black color" that was wrong.

I know about Racism my family lives everyday my father-in-law is of Syrian decent you want racism try to imagine the death threats that come just because you're skin is a dk olive and you have that mid-eastern facial features. My husband has been pulled aside in the airport for 'spot checks' when the buzzers are going off for the guy behind him but because that guy fits the 'Anglo look' he gets to board no problem.

My Grandparents had to denounce their heritage because being an Native American was to be the scum of the earth and you weren't allowed to go in to even the local bar. It wasn't until I was born that my Grandparents even taught my mother anything about their heritage. What is worse we still have family members that deny who we are because they are afraid.

I was brought up to respect all people but when I see people who play the race card or the gender card IT MAKES ME SICK!!!!!!!!!! Yes some of my ignorant ancestors treated the blacks horrible but they treated the American Indian horrible as well. Many are still treated as third-rate citizens.

So find some tolerance in your own heart because honestly it is the people like you that are keeping the lines of division so strong and those lines are strengthening.

When I read and listen to Dr. King's "I Have a Dream" speech this is not what I imagine his dream was. It seems that some people get stuck in the first few paragraphs of the great and powerful speech right up to the part where he says
"Let us not seek our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline."

"the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people"

"I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will be judged not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

His dream states that we would ALL be judged on our own merit not by the color of our skin or our gender. I don't know about you but I would hate to get a job and have to wonder if I got because I was qualified and deserved it or if I was the "token" chic.

He wanted us to be able to come together not contiue to be a nation diveded but it seems that people can't get that. What did he die for then? Was it a sensless death? Did he give his life to this cause for naught? I mean what he believed in what he wanted for our country our WHOLE country is what got him killed. We celebrate this man's life every January but almost 50 years later we still don't get it, we don't get what he was trying to teach us.

"And when this happens, when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to spend up that day when ALL of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: FREE AT LAST! FREE AT LAST! THANK GOD ALMIGHTY, WE ARE FREE AT LAST!"

I know that I did not know the man personally nor his family but from reading of him I think that what has been happening in this country since he has left us would upset him greatly. He wanted us all to be free, free from the hatred, the ignorance and all it breeds.

We need to spot focusing on the mistakes of those before us and start focusing on the problems of the present because our future is at risk. Our children are inheriting a MESS and we should start helping to clean it up before we hand it over to them to try to fix not only the mistakes of those before us but YES OUR MISTAKES too!!!! We all need to take responsiblity for the state things are in it is easy to blame them slave owners of over 200 years ago. I can blame those that made my family of long ago walk the dreaded Trail of Tears and force them off their land onto a reservation as well. But what good does it do? Does it change anything? NO, we have the power to change things now.

Not by ruining peoples lives, those boys got kicked from their school, their team banned and why? Because one girl said they did something but there was no proof and they were tried and judged not in a court of law but by Mr. Sharpton and Mr. Jackson. Now it comes out that there is no proof and they are not even able to bring a case against them in a court of law? What recourse do these young men have? If they try to take on the men that forced the hand of Duke and others will they be called racists?

I don't think these are the tactics that need to be employeed here these are just making the gap bringer.

Imus lost his job and he says he agrees with the decissions made about him this week but it is only treating a symptom not the disease.

There is more that needs to be done. You said that blaming rap and hip-hop artists for what he said is not right. No it is not but those things should not be allowed either if we are going to fire shock jocks for what was said then why not TV comics, stand-up comics, and music artists? I don't allow my children to listen to that nonsense that they call music as I find degrading to women and not music at all. But I know that I am not all parents I also know that the time will come that they must make their own choices. Why should the freedom of speech and expression apply to one person and not another?


Posted by: Katrina at April 14, 2007 10:22 AM

Essentially, the racists in these comments defending Imus on the basis of what others may have said are way off-base.

Let's review what Imus did: he called a specific group of young black women "nappy-headed hos." Nevermind these black women were in college and had just achieved the pinnacle of their collegiate sport.

Imus' comments has zero to do with Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, rap music or the price of corn in Iowa. He made the remarks because he and his band of fellow racists thought it would be funny to call young black women in college 'whores.'

And let's be honest--most rightwing talk shows know their audiences are filled with white folks like Katrina and G Washington and Ken and Zsa Zsa. They know tossing out a racial slur is what makes their audience keep coming back.

Posted by: Jadegold at April 14, 2007 02:36 PM

Jadegold...I've never been a fan of Imus or his talkshow. Racial slurs are certainly NOT what I look for to entertain me. I find it sick & appalling that anyone uses racial slurs. I am not siding or defending Imus. He is as BIG a Racist as one can get. One thing about it, he doesn't discriminate as to whom he lets loose on... Al Sharpton is a Racist too. AND there is no doubt about that in my mind.

Posted by: zsa zsa at April 14, 2007 03:27 PM

You do not know me in any way shape or form. I am by no means a racist if you feel that I am defending Imus so be it. What I am saying is that we need to look at the bigger picture way more is broke here than the words that he said. And when I see members of the black community of national news questioning the decissions made I must ask myself maybe I am not the only one seeing a bigger picture here?

These women did and do deserve much better. These young women probably would have never known of those comments but because one of the young ladies preacher brought it up in during his surmon on Sunday it started a firestorm. However did it require Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson jumping on board to become judge, jury and convictor again? They use hatred and continue to do all they can to keep people stirred up in this country. Please show me the good they can do. I have not seen it I guess recent events have shown them tearing people apart whether they have all the evidence to do so or not.

I have watched Imus in the Morning once for all of 5 minutes, he had a musical talent on and I paused my channel flipping to see who and what it was. Once he started talking I flipped the channel it appauled me things that were being said.

Like I said before I understand hatred and ignorance and that is what breeds racism. But until people of ALL colors can let go of their hurt, their hatred andyes even their ignorance we will go nowhere with this. We will be a nation divided with no hope of coming together and being One Nation Standing Together. Yes we are all different and that is what is so wonderful, well it could be if we let it.

Posted by: Katrina at April 14, 2007 07:19 PM

Al Sharpton has dedicated his life to racism. He is SO racist!... Affirmative Action is the most racist concept or policy I have ever heard of and yet it is used???

Posted by: zsa zsa at April 14, 2007 08:10 PM

i've observed all comments and none of the content has satisfied my thirst for truth. 1st- to ms.katrina my heart goes out to you but i'm not the enemy. white america created a world which they felt would only be comfortable for the likes, they also established a government ,police ,jails & guns which would be suitable in the days of rebellion, this was instituted after the whip. whats more pitiful is the reverse psycology that is used(TRICKNOWLEDGE)this form of lies allows white america to neglect responsibility, regardless to the time, 200yrs ago or today, their allowance was gained through oppression. americas history is a dirty one. they know it - like we know it. all the angry monsters walking around they created, jesse jackson & al sharpton are voices. so now you call out the white malitia to fight all due to imus,i've never heard white america cry so loud ,you are a spoiled nation of people, used to having your way but when the table turns it brings pain , something you're not used to. what history does'nt conclude is that this is'nt a black or white , indian ,spanish problem , this is an american problem in which you ordered please note - that greed is a sin and their are repercussions, YES MARTIN DID HAVE A DREAM BUT IT'S TIME TO WAKE UP!!!!!

Posted by: pamela riley at April 14, 2007 10:20 PM

and while im on the rag may i offer this comment to G.WASHINGTON, I also have a little something for ZSA ZSA.how dare you determine a time line for me ,you are the children of your ugly fore fathers. you speak lightly of 150 yrs as thou you served time in that compacity, daily you reap the benefits of this indentured, industrialized and enslaved nation of people. just for the record the race never begin fair, when the gun was fired, you were already at the finish line, while black mothers were nursing white babies on their breast. if racism is'nt alive - tell me have you ever been awarded employment based on affimative action and not your own merit, have you ever been followed in a department store while being white ? have you ever been pulled over by police for driving while black ? have you ever been black while residing in america? then how the hell can you tell me what time it is.*** to you MS.ZSA ZSA you conveyed to me that christ was of middle eastern descent, with olive colored skin , well! so are the terroist that you've grown not so accustomed to. (the new modern day nigger---oops that was created) stung america harder than the price of oil, due to political gains, capital gains or should i say compound gain , while you're busy watching the middle east , whose watching you??? REMEMBER ARABS WEAR SHEETS BY DAY -- CAUCASIONS WEAR SHEETS BY NIGHT. and another thing i'm not a racist -- just in the race. i embrace truth thou at times ugly, theirs a beauty in it . accountability is the name of the game, realization is your next move.

Posted by: pamela riley at April 14, 2007 10:57 PM

Pamela...You have a racial chip on your shoulder. I REALIZE there are racist people in the world. AND they give me the creeps. BUT not all racists are white! You continue to use racial slurs and point fingers and list reasons why it is So difficult for blacks to live in the USA. I have been pulled over by the cops for basically no reason. AND I have been followed in department stores too! So get over yourself. NOT everything is about the color of our skin. Racism is a hateful, sick, insecure policy to live by! God created us all...

Posted by: zsa zsa at April 15, 2007 06:00 AM

Life is too short to get hung up on race. People are people no matter what color our skin. Lessons are learned from the past. IF we allow ourselves to take steps toward the future the future will be a much nicer place for all of us. The Black Power and the KKK are a bunch of hate mongering scum. They don't do anything other than make people enraged and fuel the racial fires...

Posted by: zsa zsa at April 15, 2007 06:13 AM

Pamela,

I think you and I are trying to say the same thing (if you filter out the fluff of our posts and anger with in them). It is time, time to start to understand eachother and how eachother feels.

Very few of the white people that room our country today have slave ownership in their background so why should they pay for the sins of those of the 1800's? I want to understand because that is the only way we can move forward.

America does have a checkered past but so does every Nation on this Earth. I believe that we have come to a time that we need to start coming together and making it right. What at the end of the day will make this happen? You say that White America needs to applogize for the sins of the forefathers, how many applogizing does it take, what is the cost you want us to pay? Do you want to put us in chains so that turn about is fair play? Yes, I understand your struggle and I hear you say that you are oppressed. How can we as a community united, a nation help you with that? Please tell us. The first step has to be that we can sit down and talk, leaving the anger and hurt at the door. We will get nowhere until then.

I sing praises for our kids here in our community, my home town community of all colors, that pull themselves up and say you know what I am tired of all this it is time to make a difference. They do the same thing my children do they fight their way thru school. They make a life for themselves not to prove to the 'white community' or the 'black community' but to OUR communtiy and more importantly to his/herself that they could make it. They could beat the system and break free from the holds of welfare and bonds that causes, not just for blacks but for whites too.

There are those in the white community that feel that other communities (not just the black community) want special rights and priviledges allowing those in need to slip thru the cracks. You see not all of White America is rich and goes to the country club, hell most of us struggle to keep food on the table to feed our children, just as I know you probably do. We need to find solutions.

If you think I am a victim "tricknowledge" so be it. What I believe I am is an American who is fed-up with double standards of men vs women, everybody vs white, white vs everybody. I am fed-up with the racism/discrimation and hatred I see in all circles. It is time for it to end and for us to live as the good Lord intended as a family.

And yes I have been followed in a store not because of the color of my skin or the color of my father-in-law's or husband, but because I have a child who acts oddly (he is autistic).

Perhaps if we all take the time to walk a mile in the other's shoes we would learn we are not all that different after all. Yeah I know you will say it is not that simple and that I need to wake up (although you will shout it in all caps). But yet it is that simple a little understanding would go a long way and will when we get to that point. I just hope I am alive to see it and we don't have to wait several more generations for someone to get it right.

Posted by: Katrina at April 15, 2007 08:29 AM

It would be interesting to know how much DNA is responsible for race? Honestly, we could all fight about racial issues until our face turns blue. BUT in fact we all are flesh and blood and bones and guts etc... AND it will take alot of Guts to step out of the racial hatred zone and move on. Accepting our differences and Realizing the differences are what make eachother interesting and unique. IF we allow the opportunity to embrace the future and learn from the past, this world will be a safer better place to live.

Posted by: zsa zsa at April 15, 2007 09:38 AM

jadegold, where did you get the idea that Kerry-voter Don Imus was a right-wing talkshow host? He's a cynical liberal who doesn't like political correctness, and so makes fun of it. This instance is not the first time he has gone way overboard being insulting just to prove how un-PC he is.

I'm going to guess you know a lot of what-you've-been-told and what your-prejudices assure-you-must-be-true about talk radio. There's no other way to get to thinking of Imus as a right-winger. Actual firsthand data might be a plus.

Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at April 15, 2007 05:15 PM

jadegold, where did you get the idea that Kerry-voter Don Imus was a right-wing talkshow host?

I dunno; his love for John McCain (who he has already endorsed)? The fact that he attacks both Clintons?

The fact is Imus is a rightwinger; your comment WRT 'political correctness' gives it away. 'Political correctness' is merely a rightwinger complaint that he or she can't use terms like "nappy-headed hos."

In reality, your heroes like Limbaugh, Savage, and Boortz have used racial slurs far more often--but Imus had a bigger stage.

Posted by: Jadegold at April 15, 2007 07:15 PM

IF Imus had endorsed Obama or Hillary would he been on the hot seat? ...

Posted by: zsa zsa at April 15, 2007 08:44 PM

I guess if you define rightwinger as someone who uses the term "political correctness" as a complaint, then my Green uncle and my marxist-deconstructionist brother would both qualify. I know who Limbaugh is, but I've never heard of Savage and Boortz. Dunno, maybe they would be my heroes. I used to hear quite a bit of Limbaugh, but I never heard him use a racial slur.

Lots of independents, and even a few Democrats, like McCain better than the Clintons. Is your entire political formulation based on fantasy and cliches, jadegold?

Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at April 15, 2007 10:19 PM

Imus voted for Kerry, and hates Bush as much or more than he hates the Clintons. He is not a rightwinger by any means.

Limbaugh has never said anything racist on his show that I have ever heard. Can't speak for Boortz, never heard his show. Michael Savage is a fake 'conservative' provocateur, so he hardly counts. However, I don't recall him using any racial slurs either, even though he says lots of outrageous things.

Posted by: Ken McCracken at April 15, 2007 11:34 PM

Uhm. I don't really know why everyone thinks that Imus's comments were racist. Look at the context, this is what he said:

"That's some nappy-headed hos there. I'm gonna tell you that now, man, that's some -- woo. And the girls from Tennessee, they all look cute, you know"

wait, what do the girls from Tennesee look like? Just search images online, guess what they are majority african american!

He wasn't insulting them in a racist way at all, if he "hated" black people or thought they were "ugly" b/c they were "nappy-headed", he wouldn't have said that about the Tenn girls! The point is, he was just insulting the girls from Rutgers.
Now granted, it was a mean and vulgar insult, but Imus does this ALL THE TIME. As stated before, he insults Democrats, Republicans, women, men, himself, everything under the damn sun! He is NOT racist, he did NOT make a racist comment and the media turned his NORMAL talk-show persona into some kind of anti-black evil man, and then thanks to ASharpton and JJackson it snowballed from there.

In many african american's minds, the world is polarized, black and white. I understand the past hurts, and there are a lot of white racists out there, and had Imus said "those are some BLACK hos" or "they would have better GPA's if they were WHITE" or "they would make some good slaves", then that would be terrible, racist and fully deserving of punishment. But firing him, getting mad at him for the un-racist thing he said is complete bullshit. Grow up, black society will never advance if it's stuck in the polarized slavery mentality that should have disappeared when civil rights won!

Posted by: coolraz at April 16, 2007 03:56 PM

Thank you!! This is what I've wanted to say myself!

And is anyone else baffled as to how this even "hurt" this team?! Unless you have this too prevalent massochstic PC personality this can't hurt you unless you let it. As an athlete you can only hurt your team by playing poorly. How is Imus even anything but peripheral to this team?

Did you see those ridiculous articles where teammates said things like "I'm some parents daughter, so I'm hurt." I guess we're pretending that those thoughts string together somehow?

I really think that this is a war cry for anyone who cares about freedom and independent thought. The window for nipping this brave new world in the bud is closing quickly.

Posted by: Francesca at April 16, 2007 07:35 PM

Is Imus a hard left bully a la Rosie? If he is I suppose there is some kind of karma here, but still!

Posted by: Francesca at April 16, 2007 07:38 PM

WELL ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THIS... IT SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN SAID AT ALL. THOSE FEMALES(RUTGERS BASKETBALL TEAM) MADE IT THERE TO THE FINAL FOUR NOT BY THEIR COLOR OR THIER NAPPY HAIR, BUT BY PLAYING GOOD BASKETBALL. DON IMUS JUST TRULY SHOWED IN MY OPINION WHAT MOST OF AMERICA SAYS IN THE DARK CLOSET OR AROUND THERE FRIENDS. I COULD CARE LESS WHAT ANY COWARD BEING WHITE, BLACK OR GREEN SAYS ABOUT ME OR MY FAMILY AS LONG AS NO ONE PHYSICALLY THREATENS ME.

Posted by: chris lykes at April 17, 2007 05:47 PM