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Preparation H

At Salon.com Walter Shapiro gushes hagiographically about Hillary Clinton and how prepared she is:

Still, if Clinton wins the Democratic nomination (which is far from preordained), it will be as much because of the skills on display at Dartmouth Friday as any other factor. Clinton is relentless, never skimping on her homework, never taking her privileged position (by marriage) in the Democratic pantheon for granted. She may lack what the Bush family used to call "the vision thing," but she is the 2008 presidential candidate least likely to make a tactical error.

Well it is great to see that Hillary takes her run for president more seriously than reading the National Intelligence Estimate before the Iraq AUMF vote, and more seriously than studying for the District of Columbia bar exam, and more seriously than finding those darned missing Rose Hill Law Firm records.

Hillary lacks charisma, spontaneity, the 'vision thing', warmth, and accomplishments, and so her campaign and its fellow travelers have to retreat to second-tier virtues in order to have some kind of positive to point to. This 'preparation' meme didn't really help Al Gore in 2000 (it overhyped his debate skills, creating a need for a knockout punch against Bush that never came), and it won't help Hillary Clinton in the debates either, because she is a poor debater with a wooden performance and a scripted delivery.

Only overhyping Rudy, Mitt or Fred's debate abilities can help her now. This unglamorous 'Hillary is always prepared' meme sure won't.

Posted by Ken McCracken · 18 June 2007 09:40 PM


Hillary has been preparing for this all her life! I just hope she has her defeat speech ready???

Posted by: zsa zsa at June 19, 2007 05:57 AM

We can't all draw pictures of elves and nymphs for the under-14 sci-fi fans, Ken.

Posted by: Jadegold at June 19, 2007 09:51 AM

Frankly, Ken's misogynism underscores his fear of Hillary. After all, if she's so devoid of charisma, character, intelligence, and values--as Ken asserts--wouldn't she be the ideal candidate for the Dems if one wanted to see the Dems lose?

If I were a Repug who believed Hillary was a guaranteed loser, I'd hype her to the sky.

Of course, the reason Ken post such baloney is fear. He understands Sen. Clinton can raise big money, that she can out-campaign anyone currently running, she's smarter and savvier than anyone running and she can debate anyone.

Posted by: Jadegold at June 19, 2007 10:12 AM

The word is 'misogyny', Jadegold, not 'misogynism'.

Oh and I love Jadegold's attempt at a stupid meme here - if you don't like Hillary, you hate women!

Yeah, we'll see how far the Dems get with that one.

Posted by: Ken McCracken at June 19, 2007 11:05 AM

My biggest fear is having to hear Hillary's ugly voice Hillary is as big a liar as her husband. Maybe bigger? I really hope the American people remember how the White House was turned into the White trash house when the Clintons were there??? Hillary is a big Socialist and wants to TAKE from the oil companies. She should TAKE from her own bank accounts.

Posted by: zsa zsa at June 19, 2007 11:22 AM

It's not a meme, Ken. One can easily trace all of your posts regarding Senator Clinton; they all are variations of the same theme: Hillary is stupid, conniving, dishonest, etc.

The common thread is that she's simply not as good as a man.

Posted by: Jadegold at June 19, 2007 11:51 AM

Ah well then Jadegold, by your logic, if I say that Bill Clinton is stupid, conniving, dishonest, etc., that must somehow mean I hate all men.

You really do have a problem with reasoning and logic, Jadegold.

Posted by: Ken McCracken at June 19, 2007 11:56 AM

Sorry, Ken, I call 'em as I see 'em. You have a problem with women--particularly powerful, succesful women.

Posted by: Jadegold at June 19, 2007 12:34 PM

No, Jadegold, I just have a problem with powerful, successful liberal women who want to run my life for me, or tell me that 'fire never melted steel', or that I should only use one square of toilet paper.

If all of that crap works for you, great, but I don't need it.

Posted by: Ken McCracken at June 19, 2007 01:19 PM

Because nothing says 'American' like hiring a Canadian, Celine Deon, for your 'Campaign Song'.

I guess it's just another job American's won't do?

Posted by: DANEgerus at June 19, 2007 02:59 PM

What? No more Fleetwood Mac?

Posted by: zsa zsa at June 19, 2007 03:44 PM

Because nothing says 'American' like hiring a Canadian, Celine Deon, for your 'Campaign Song'.

Hmmm. In 2000, the RNC tried to use Chumbawumba's "Tubthumper" as a campaign tune until the group told them to cease and desist.

Given Dion has repeatedly entertained US troops and raised money for 9/11 victims, I don't think Daney's criticism gets much traction.

Posted by: Jadegold at June 19, 2007 05:42 PM

Funny, I get no Google hits for RNC, Chumbawamba, or Tubthumping (the correct title).

Are we sure that Jadegold isn't a sock puppet? C'mon, Ken, you can tell us. Nobody could be this obtuse.

Posted by: Chris at June 19, 2007 09:23 PM

Trust me, Jadegold is this obtuse, and more.

I need a better class of sockpuppet.

Posted by: Ken McCracken at June 19, 2007 09:28 PM

When it comes being leaders, especially high-level leaders, most women aren't anywhere near as good as men.

The exceptions are few and far between. Margaret Thatcher and Golda Meir stand out as two. I can't think of any others, though there may be one or two who have slipped my mind at the moment.

Why aren't women as effective as men as leaders? Mainly because women have different talents and temperments. Specifically, their robust nuturing quality, while indespensible in many fields, is a liability (to the degree most women have it) in a leader. Another significant element is their sexuality. Men have sexual responses to many women, especially when the women flaunt their sexuality. How can I take Pelosi Galore seriously when she's flashing her knees and cleavage? And I don't even want to look! She's a grandmother, for heaven's sake!

In the military, women are simply incapable of leading men--because the men won't follow. Women can't create the complex web of fear, respect, camaraderie, motivation, loyalty, and brotherhood that create the bonds between a leader and his men. (Which is not to say that men never obey women's orders--far from it. Still, women just can't get the same response.)

When it comes down to it, cuteness and leadership are incompatible--and most women are, to a greater or lesser degree, cute.

If there were an American woman who exemplified the traits of a great leader, and had an ideology I agreed with, I would consider voting for her for president. Ignoring for the moment Hillary's repugnant politics, she has shown no sign of any special leadership ability. I wouldn't put her in charge of a marching band, much less the military.

Excellent essay exploring the topic here:

Posted by: Nathan Hale at June 20, 2007 01:45 AM

Nathan, While I agree Hillary's politics are repugnant... AND I wouldn't vote for her if she were the last poitician on earth. I believe women have been pushed aside and held back by men for too long. Men have been holding the reins for a long time and frankly look at the mess they have created. Perhaps, IF women were to lead for a while???? We may be able to use some of our nurturing skills to make this world a better place???

Posted by: zsa zsa at June 20, 2007 06:04 AM

Chris demonstrates his obtuseness by demonstrating an inability to use Google.

From WSJ.com:

Things haven't gotten noticeably better recently. Former Rep. Bob Dornan, a colorful California conservative who was ousted in 1996, last year tried to jumpstart his comeback rally with the Chumbawamba song "Tubthumper." When the band got wind of it, they issued a statement calling Mr. Dornan a "right wing, racist, anti-abortion bigot" and "a complete idiot."

Posted by: Jadegold at June 20, 2007 07:58 AM

zsa zsa. If we elect women like Hillary, other, actually qualified women will have less chance in the future.

Margaret Thatcher now, that would be different.

Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at June 20, 2007 12:09 PM

Assistant VI...I can't believe the Clinton's would ever show their ugly faces in public again. Let alone ever think about Hillary running for President of the USA. She is nothing more than a Socialist commie white trash politician who would do and say ANYTHING to become the first woman President of the USA. The Clinton's should be ashamed of themselves and what they put our country through! Instead they won't leave! Her voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard. PLEASE dear lord, don't allow this woman to be our next President! Amen...

Posted by: zsa zsa at June 20, 2007 01:06 PM

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by AVI's admiration for Maggie Thatcher. Like AVI, Thatcher didn't meet too many despots she didn't admire.

Remember--when you're waxing fondly for Maggie--Thatcher sold arms to Saddam and expressed friendship and shelter to Pinochet.

Posted by: Jadegold at June 20, 2007 01:50 PM

Well no wonder Chris couldn't find the Tubthumping link.

Jadegold was wrong for the umpteenth time when he claimed that the RNC attempted to use Tubthumping as a theme song.

Chris couldn't find anything to back that up, because of course Jadegold was wrong as usual.

Turns out, only B1 Bob Dornan attempted to use the song. But I suppose in Jadegold's world Bob Dornan and the RNC are one and the same.

Jadegold is racking up quite a string of mistakes and misinformation here.

Like using a 1994 out of date study to make the crazy claim that illegal immigrants don't actually create any social costs.

Like his insane claim that only 12 Gitmo detainees have been classed as enemy combatants.

Like claiming that each and every single climate scientist in the entire world believes in anthropogenic global warming.

Like Jadegold's hilarious claim that the Dan Rather memos are real.

And now we have Jadegold's remarkable claim that Maggie Thatcher sold 'arms' to Saddam Hussein. Notice that he doesn't specify what these 'arms' are - they consisted of some 20 Chieftain armored recovery vehicles, and some Cymbeline anti-artillery radar systems.

You would expect Jadegold to slink away from embarassment, but you can bet that Jadegold, after getting shot down so many times here, sincerely believes he is winning these debates!

Such is the strength of the cocoon in which he lives.

Posted by: Ken McCracken at June 20, 2007 04:19 PM

Maybe this is piling on here, but Jadegold is so hopeless, he can't even read a blog post correctly.

Go read the comments at that post to see how poor his reading skills are.

Posted by: Ken McCracken at June 20, 2007 04:24 PM

Zsa Zsa,

While I generally enjoy your comments, I find your response to my comment to be pure feminist drivel.

"I believe women have been pushed aside and held back by men for too long."

While I would never deny that there is a grain of truth to one of the underlying premises of this statement--that men have prevented women from achieving all they might be capable of--the fact of the matter is that since at least the Reformation, women in the West have enjoyed more safety, personal freedom, and rights than they have had in any other culture in any other age--including today.

However, I'd like to refute the notion that it has only been men do the holding back. Women, too, have always done their own fair share of holding other women back; this cattish nature both mystifies men and makes women less qualified for leadership.

The other main underlying premise of your statement is that men and women are equal in ability and desire. This is so easily falsified that it shouldn't even need a response. If you believe that the only reason that women have achieved less than men is that they were "held back," then you should really open your eyes and observe how even the youngest children make their gender known by their choices and actions. Heck, even monkeys show clear behavioral differences by sex!

None of this should be construed as a denigration of women. Women and men are different, with different strengths, weaknesses, aptitudes, and abilities. Each are necessary, and both families and societies are best when those differences are allowed to complement each other. It is only the modern liberal PC ideology that denies this reality.

Posted by: Nathan Hale at June 21, 2007 12:40 AM

Poor Ken. I guess the comment about drawing nymphs and elves smarted.

The fact is Bob Dornan is a Repug. He was receiving funds from the RNC as were all GOP candidates for national office in 2000. And the fact is, Chumbawamba quite artfully told Dornan and the RNC to knock it off.

The next lie Ken tells is that I claimed the CBS/Dan Rather memos were real. Nowhere did I claim this. What I did say was that 99% of the claims made against the memos were wrong. I further stated Rather had failed to adequately establish the provenance of the documents.

In point of fact, the Thornburgh/Boccardi report investigating the matter concludes their panel could not establish whether the documents were authentic or forgeries.

Another Ken lie: Like claiming that each and every single climate scientist in the entire world believes in anthropogenic global warming.

Never made that claim. But I did claim that the vast majority of climate scientists do. BTW, Ken's rebuttal was to cite the Oregon Petition which turns out to be even more dubious than the Rather CBS documents.

Our illustrator's next lie: Like his insane claim that only 12 Gitmo detainees have been classed as enemy combatants.

Again, a comment that was never made. The comment I did make was that only about 12 Gitmo detainess had been charged with anything. Classing someone as an 'enemy combatant' is as meaningless as classing them as 'Easter bunnies.'

Our little doodler lies: Like using a 1994 out of date study to make the crazy claim that illegal immigrants don't actually create any social costs

If you don't like 1994 study, how about something more recent?

[E]very empirical study of illegals' economic impact demonstrates the opposite . . .: undocumenteds actually contribute more to public coffers in taxes than they cost in social services. Moreover, undocumented immigrants contribute to the U.S. economy through their investments and consumption of goods and services; filling of millions of essential worker positions resulting in subsidiary job creation, increased productivity and lower costs of goods and services; and unrequited contributions to Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance programs. Eighty-five percent of eminent economists surveyed have concluded that undocumented immigrants have had a positive (seventy-four percent) or neutral (eleven percent) impact on the U.S. economy.

Of course, Ken will claim this study is "outdated" because it is a year old.

And now we have Jadegold's remarkable claim that Maggie Thatcher sold 'arms' to Saddam Hussein.

It's hardly remarkable as Ken is able to verify it. The point Ken misses is that Thatcher did this in violation of US trade agreements with the UK.

Posted by: Jadegold at June 21, 2007 08:32 AM

Illegal aliens occupy the lower reaches of the economic scale. They often have children after they get here. (Part of "Hispanic" family values includes illegitimate teen birth rates that are at least three times higher than that of whites.*) Because thier illegal alien parents don't have insurance, the cost of childbirth ($10-15,000) is borne by the taxpayer. As the children grow, they go to school. Schools in areas that have high populations of illegal aliens are in constant fiscal crisis, it seems.

Theh there's the crime.** 95% of all outstanding warrants for murder in LA County are for illegal aliens. Up to 2/3 of all Federal felony warrants target the same demographic. More than half of "Hispanic" gang members are illegal aliens. Illegal aliens are disproportionately over-represented in both state and Federal prisons, and they are often doing time for violent crimes like robbery, rape, child molestation, and murder.

The costs of educating, incacerating, and providing health care for illegal aliens are staggering. Yet in Jadegold's Bizzaro World of Good Is Bad and Right Is Wrong, Illegal Aliens Are Upstanding Citizens and Contribute More To The Economy Than They Take.


Posted by: Nathan Hale at June 21, 2007 08:51 AM

Shoter Nathan: I choose to ignore facts.

Geez, even Texas' comptroller said illegal immigration brought a net $400M to the state last year.

Texas. You know that state that borders Mexico?

Nathan, taking a break from denigrating women, obviously hasn't read Snopes

Posted by: Jadegold at June 21, 2007 09:30 AM

Why would the comment about drawing elves and nymphs 'smart', Jadegold?

I have promoted my artwork right here on this site.

Jadegold - wrong as always.

Posted by: Ken McCracken at June 21, 2007 02:24 PM

Jadegold you accused me of admiring despots. What's your data?

As to "sheltering" Pinochet, that is a rather emotive and prejudicial term for entirely legal protections. Unless, of course, only terrorists deserve legal protections.

As to your claims about the Rather memos, I quote from your first comment in that thread. "The only thing "learned" from Rathergate was that if you tell a big, attractive seeming lie, you can count on the right wing blogosphere to promote it, the mainstream corporate media to not investigate it, and the general public to be utterly suckered in by it. The forgery "hypothesis" had major issues from the instant "Buckhead" made his post on the Free Republic, namely in that every single technical assertion of his was wrong -- there was actually a vibrant word processing market by 1972 with plenty of machines capable of proportional spacing in different fonts and with features like automatic centering. Charles Johnson's cute little overlay animation of one of the memos posted on his Little Green Footballs blog site was seen by many as hard proof of forgery -- except that the overlay trick fails with the other three memos. Plus one of two additional memos CBS had but didn't use contained info that any would be forger could have only gleemed from analyzing Bush's flight records -- except that those flight records had only been belatedly released by the Pentagon a couple of days after CBS had obtained the memos. "

The sneers and quotation marks leave little doubt what you believe about the memos and their exposure. A technical claim that you did not say they were real is irrelevant. You cannot expect to get full insult value for tone and then step back from it pretending it is not part of your content. Uncle Screwtape waxes eloquently on that subject.

Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at June 22, 2007 02:54 PM

Here in the glorious People's Republic of Mexifornia (which also borders Mexico), 84 hospitals have closed their doors because they can't pay for all the treatment of illegal aliens that the Federal government mandated yet does not fund. Is that part of your miraculous illegal alien economic boom?

How about prisons? Illegal aliens are over-represented among prison populations in proportion to their percentage of the population as a whole. On average, it costs $25,000 per year to incarcerate someone. Do you suppose that the illegal aliens who get paid under the table are filing their tax returns so that they can pay for social services like prison? Do you suppose that the taxes paid by low-income illegal aliens who are subject to withholding covers the incarceration of their brethren?

Then there are the remittances. Illegal aliens from south of the border send billions of dollars back home. In fact, for Mexico, remittances are second only to oil revenues for foreign income. This money leaves the US economy and fuels theirs. Is this another part of the illegal alien economic boom?

Who's ignoring facts?

Incidentally, what part of "men and women are different" is denigrating? Maybe you should take a remedial reading course, and learn to read what people write, rather than projecting on to their writings your own prejudices.

Posted by: Nathan Hale at June 26, 2007 01:16 AM