who cares? haven't you ever seen those old cartoons of george washington or abe lincoln made by their political enemies. There has always been politically incorrect mea nspirited, unfair things said about peoples rivals. It's part of politics.

now bush supporters care about he constitution. hahaha too late

Oh yeah, part of politics includes calling for a military overthrow of the government?

We have a word for that, lester, it's called sedition.

anything bad said about Bush is legal by fiat of me

Good thing you don't count.

How low will they go? Pretty dang low!

The article has the air of "playing army," or "playing lawyer." Okay, "playing army lawyer." Whoa, guys, I've found this really cool trick whereby we could get rid of the president. It is reminiscent of the reasoning of the guys who say you don't have to pay your income tax or that 9-11 was an inside job.

He doesn't see it as sedition, or as a poorly-disguised military coup because he just hasn't thought about it very hard. It's just a grinning, seventh-grade "know how much I think Bush is illegal? This is how much I think he's illegal."

Such sentiments, however childish, are dangerous nonetheless. They illustrate that even with lester, above, who is at least trying to be funny, the grim reality of what is being said is missed, because it's just so much darn fun to show how much smarter and more righteous you are than George Bush and his uh, cabal... cronies... minions - what's the favored term these days? While such silliness of reasoning seldom leads to any real conflict, it has, and it could. Unthinking people do not need much intellectual cover.

This kind of thing just drives me bonkers.

Isn't a coup d'etat precisely the type of thing the left has been saying Bush will do?

But . . . if a leftist actually proposes a coup d'etat, we're just supposed to sit back and say that is alright?

This leftist thinking, that their aims and ideals are so precious and so good that we can just throw out the rule of law in order to make it happen, is
perhaps the most outrageous conceit they have.

Did I say it drives me bonkers?

For those people who think Martin Lewis has a good idea, let me make just one point - creating precedent.

If a Democrat were to be elected POTUS in 2008, would it be permissible for a person who hated her to advocate a military coup? An Assassination? NO - it would not be permissible then just as it is not permissible now for someone to write an article advocating mutiny, treason or sedition.

There comes a point in a civilized society when a position being advocated is so reprehensible that even the allies of the advocate must stand up and shout "Enough!" as they cast out the offender. Failure to act will cause the rebellious to reap the whirlwind.

well, nominate a less horrible candidate next time and you won't see stuff like this. That's your free market solution

anything bad said about Bush is legal by fiat of me

This is already correct thanks to the 1st Amendment, with the exception of verbal threats to kill or harm the president, which have been illegal for decades. However, the legality of speech says nothing about whether it's right.

Nominate a less horrible candidate? Why are you talking about the RoboGore?

I mean like reagan

The left worries about a coup by Bush for precisely the reason we see illustrated here. They are thinking it themselves, at least in humorous fantasy; they see themselves as good people, and Bush a bad one; therefore if they, being righteous, have these thoughts, how much more must the unrighteous neocons be having them?

It's called projection - the attribution of your own unacceptable feelings onto your opponents. Metaphorically, they are playing their movies on George Bush's screen.

Oh please, please, someone tell me I don't have the right to diagnose psychological problems like that. I am just dying to have that discussion again.

And they see their cause as so righteous, that they think that theirs ends justify the means. It isn't projection for them, because these are not 'unacceptable feelings' for them. For many of them, they would like to have a dictatorship put in place so that they can carry out their all-important schemes of social engineering without all that messy democratic consensus crap getting in the way.

Heh, lester, are you a Reagan fan, too?

ken- "the government isn't the solution, the government is the problem" Yes i am a reagan fan. well, usually if someone asks my favorite president I say "none of them". The whole notion of a president kind of offends me and I thnk most of the things that have helped us have been made by individuals in the private industries not politicians, who are up there with lawyers and used car salesmen.

At the same time, I grew up in the years 1980-2000 and the US was bascially an unstoppable force those 2 decades and i wouldn't pretend otherwise. and reagan was the precedent setter for that era. it certainly wasn't Nixon or carter!

Personally, I think Lewis may be on to something here.

With your title, Random Numbers, and that post, you really have to read Taleb's The Black Swan. You will love it, RN.

Just showing the likes of Lewis how satire is supposed to be done.