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HuffPo New LowThe Huffington Post manages to consistently plumb new depths of hatred and sociopathology, but today Martin Lewis posted what is probably the most loathsome piece of garbage yet - General Pace, You Can Save the US - by Arresting Bush for "Conduct Unbecoming".
This is what I wrote to the HuffPo in response:
I sincerely urge everyone out there to contact the Huffington Post and let them know this crosses the line. Big time.And please, no 'corrections' defending Lewis claiming he is not calling for a coup d'etat. The only mechanism for relieving the President of his duties as Commander-in-Chief lies in impeachment - what Lewis is calling for completely subverts the Constitution.
P.S. Ed Morrissey agrees that Lewis is pleading for the destruction of the Constitution:
Lewis quotes extensively from the Uniform Code of Military Justice, but clearly his scholarship does not extend to the Constitution. The command of the armed forces follows from the president's election to office, and cannot be separated from the office itself. Bush isn't C-in-C because he got appointed to that position, but because the American electorate voted him into that role. In other words, the military cannot arrest the C-in-C but leave the President in power, and to argue otherwise is to demonstrate complete ignorance.
And one of his commenters notes "See? Liberals DO support our troops."
Posted by Ken McCracken · 25 August 2007 04:37 PM
who cares? haven't you ever seen those old cartoons of george washington or abe lincoln made by their political enemies. There has always been politically incorrect mea nspirited, unfair things said about peoples rivals. It's part of politics.
Posted by: lester at August 25, 2007 05:14 PM
now bush supporters care about he constitution. hahaha too late
Posted by: lester at August 25, 2007 05:16 PM
Oh yeah, part of politics includes calling for a military overthrow of the government?
We have a word for that, lester, it's called sedition.
Posted by: Ken McCacken at August 25, 2007 05:16 PM
anything bad said about Bush is legal by fiat of me
Posted by: lester at August 25, 2007 05:21 PM
Good thing you don't count.
Posted by: Ken McCacken at August 25, 2007 05:21 PM
How low will they go? Pretty dang low!
Posted by: zsa zsa at August 25, 2007 05:45 PM
The article has the air of "playing army," or "playing lawyer." Okay, "playing army lawyer." Whoa, guys, I've found this really cool trick whereby we could get rid of the president. It is reminiscent of the reasoning of the guys who say you don't have to pay your income tax or that 9-11 was an inside job.
He doesn't see it as sedition, or as a poorly-disguised military coup because he just hasn't thought about it very hard. It's just a grinning, seventh-grade "know how much I think Bush is illegal? This is how much I think he's illegal."
Such sentiments, however childish, are dangerous nonetheless. They illustrate that even with lester, above, who is at least trying to be funny, the grim reality of what is being said is missed, because it's just so much darn fun to show how much smarter and more righteous you are than George Bush and his uh, cabal... cronies... minions - what's the favored term these days? While such silliness of reasoning seldom leads to any real conflict, it has, and it could. Unthinking people do not need much intellectual cover.
Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at August 25, 2007 08:16 PM
This kind of thing just drives me bonkers.
Isn't a coup d'etat precisely the type of thing the left has been saying Bush will do?
But . . . if a leftist actually proposes a coup d'etat, we're just supposed to sit back and say that is alright?
This leftist thinking, that their aims and ideals are so precious and so good that we can just throw out the rule of law in order to make it happen, is
Did I say it drives me bonkers?
Posted by: Ken McCacken at August 25, 2007 08:23 PM
For those people who think Martin Lewis has a good idea, let me make just one point - creating precedent.
If a Democrat were to be elected POTUS in 2008, would it be permissible for a person who hated her to advocate a military coup? An Assassination? NO - it would not be permissible then just as it is not permissible now for someone to write an article advocating mutiny, treason or sedition.
There comes a point in a civilized society when a position being advocated is so reprehensible that even the allies of the advocate must stand up and shout "Enough!" as they cast out the offender. Failure to act will cause the rebellious to reap the whirlwind.
Posted by: Poole at August 25, 2007 09:01 PM
well, nominate a less horrible candidate next time and you won't see stuff like this. That's your free market solution
Posted by: lester at August 26, 2007 08:25 AM
anything bad said about Bush is legal by fiat of me
This is already correct thanks to the 1st Amendment, with the exception of verbal threats to kill or harm the president, which have been illegal for decades. However, the legality of speech says nothing about whether it's right.
Posted by: Bigfoot at August 26, 2007 12:22 PM
Nominate a less horrible candidate? Why are you talking about the RoboGore?
Posted by: Poole at August 26, 2007 01:10 PM
I mean like reagan
Posted by: lester at August 26, 2007 01:32 PM
The left worries about a coup by Bush for precisely the reason we see illustrated here. They are thinking it themselves, at least in humorous fantasy; they see themselves as good people, and Bush a bad one; therefore if they, being righteous, have these thoughts, how much more must the unrighteous neocons be having them?
It's called projection - the attribution of your own unacceptable feelings onto your opponents. Metaphorically, they are playing their movies on George Bush's screen.
Oh please, please, someone tell me I don't have the right to diagnose psychological problems like that. I am just dying to have that discussion again.
Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at August 26, 2007 04:14 PM
And they see their cause as so righteous, that they think that theirs ends justify the means. It isn't projection for them, because these are not 'unacceptable feelings' for them. For many of them, they would like to have a dictatorship put in place so that they can carry out their all-important schemes of social engineering without all that messy democratic consensus crap getting in the way.
Posted by: Ken McCacken at August 26, 2007 07:31 PM
Heh, lester, are you a Reagan fan, too?
Posted by: Ken McCacken at August 26, 2007 07:32 PM
ken- "the government isn't the solution, the government is the problem" Yes i am a reagan fan. well, usually if someone asks my favorite president I say "none of them". The whole notion of a president kind of offends me and I thnk most of the things that have helped us have been made by individuals in the private industries not politicians, who are up there with lawyers and used car salesmen.
Posted by: lester at August 27, 2007 12:08 PM
Personally, I think Lewis may be on to something here.
Posted by: Random Numbers at August 27, 2007 06:26 PM
With your title, Random Numbers, and that post, you really have to read Taleb's The Black Swan. You will love it, RN.
Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at August 27, 2007 06:42 PM
Just showing the likes of Lewis how satire is supposed to be done.
Posted by: Random Numbers at August 29, 2007 01:16 AM