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Obama Gaffe Check

For a guy as bright and intelligent as Barack Obama, he sure says some stupid things. He makes Joe Biden look guarded by comparison.

Stick a fork in him, he's done.

Here is an incomplete catalog of Obama gaffes:

  • When asked how we would respond to another major al-Qaeda attack on the U.S., he talked about disaster response instead of military action.
  • Last May, in the wake of the deadly Kansas tornado, Obama said "Ten thousand people died - an entire town destroyed". The death toll was actually 12 people.
  • Obama stated that he would meet with enemy dictators - without any preconditions.
  • Not long after, he said "if we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharaf will not act, we will." With allies like Obama, who needs enemies?
  • He then declared that the use of nuclear weapons against al-Qaeda were "not on the table."
  • Obama just last week referred to the 'president' of Canada. Canada has a prime minister, not a president.

Plus: when did it become the Associated Press' job to campaign for Barack Obama? Yesterday, the AP released an article Fact Check: Obama on Afghanistan which claims to 'correct' Republican outrage over Obama's latest gaffe, in which Obama said

  • "We've got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there."

Nedra Pickler offered this response -

THE FACT CHECK:

A check of the facts shows that Western forces have been killing civilians at a faster rate than the insurgents have been killing civilians.

The U.S. and NATO say they don't have civilian casualty figures, but The Associated Press has been keeping count based on figures from Afghan and international officials. Tracking civilian deaths is a difficult task because they often occur in remote and dangerous areas that are difficult to reach and verify.

As of Aug. 1, the AP count shows that while militants killed 231 civilians in attacks in 2007, Western forces killed 286. Another 20 were killed in crossfire that can't be attributed to one party.

This 'fact check' competely misses the point. Pickler ignores the fact that we have thousands of boots on the ground fighting and killing the Taliban, and it should be obvious to a neutral observer that the effort in Afghanistan consists of much more than air-raiding villages. Pickler then sidesteps Obama's insinuation that our troops kill civilians indiscriminately, and that this is official policy. This is the real Republican complaint here, and Pickler's fact check just further falls apart by not even addressing it.

Can we can expect a fact check from Nedra Pickler when the DNC jumps on a supposed gaffe by a Republican candidate? Well if this is the best she can offer, she needn't bother. Not that she was going to. That would be an act of even-handed fairness and detached journalism, which the AP continually proves itself incapable of.

Posted by Ken McCracken · 15 August 2007 05:25 AM

Comments

Anyone want to bet that the AP "fact check" consisted of going back and adding up the numbers reported in AP stories?

Which means that the accuracy of that check is no better than the original story - in other words, not accurate at all.

Posted by: cirby at August 15, 2007 08:04 AM

...but the black Dan Quayle will get a free pass 'cause he's a liberal.

(also erroneously posted below)

Posted by: rodney dill at August 15, 2007 08:22 AM

Uh Oh...

Posted by: zsa zsa at August 15, 2007 08:24 AM

Don't overlook his singing. That's what killed it for me.

Posted by: k2aggie07 at August 15, 2007 09:02 AM

Barack Obama is highly underwhelming.

Posted by: Will Franklin at August 15, 2007 09:24 AM

Can you imagine what the response would have been if a Republican candidate had engaged in such boneheaded saber-rattling with Pakistan, as Obama has done in the last few weeks? My God, it would have been a bloodbath on an epic scale.

I'll take a gaffe like "potatoe" any day over the ones committed by this assclown.

Posted by: GregJ at August 15, 2007 10:07 AM

"That would be an act of even-handed fairness and detached journalism, which the AP continually proves itself incapable of." Ken McCracken

"The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood." Thomas Jefferson

"Gee, when they start printing the New York Times on Charmin Quality news print, I might buy one again." Blue Jack Tyner(my down the street neighbor)

Posted by: Eneils Bailey at August 15, 2007 01:02 PM

this is just right wing blogger stuff. If people think he is the second coming they don't care about "gaffes" or youthfull indescretions. Bush proved that

Posted by: lester at August 15, 2007 02:00 PM

News flash to lester...ding...ding...ding.

This is not about GWB, and oh, by the way, has any one told you yet that GWB is not running next year?

I guess you guys really know that, but just can't shake the Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Posted by: Eneils Bailey at August 15, 2007 02:14 PM

"If people think he is the second coming they don't care about "gaffes" or youthfull indescretions."

I will agree to that.

But for a large percentage of the mature and knowledgeable population, when a person publicly addresses domestic and foreign issues in attempt to be elected President in fifteen month, his "gaffes" and "youthful indiscretions" must be taken seriously.

Posted by: Eneils Bailey at August 15, 2007 02:26 PM

then how did bush , the undisputed gaffe master, get elected?

Posted by: lester at August 15, 2007 03:29 PM

Bush's gaffes were only mistakes in grammar or pronunciation.

He doesn't make huge fricking errors on substance.

Posted by: Ken McCacken at August 15, 2007 03:43 PM

"outsourcing is good for america!"

Posted by: lester at August 15, 2007 04:05 PM

Well if you're a free market capitalist, outsourcing is good for America. Its just bad for individual Americans.

Posted by: k2aggie07 at August 15, 2007 04:26 PM

Seriously lester,

Do you actually realize how demented and self absorbed in your own obsessions you have become?

Go get a life or something that will help you. You come across as a stubborn, undisciplined, pot-smoking, teen-ager.

For the sake of compromise, I will concede that you see GWB as the source of your political hatred and you have been trying to convince us for a long time. Your point has been made, now go seek a cure.

Posted by: Eneils Bailey at August 15, 2007 08:04 PM

lester,

You are the highest form of a coward. You can not express an idea without attaching and demeaning an individual to make your pitiful rebuttals to political ideas. There are a lot of things about GWB I don't like. But there are some things I would stand beside him and defend him to the end. And you know what, I don't think for one second that this country is not better off for having Bush as President over either Gore or Kerry.

Which democrat are you going to vote for in the next election, the one that hates Bush the most, or the one that can come up with the snappiest one-liner bumper sticker slogan in support of barbarians who want to annihilate us.

The sad thing about our Constitution Republic is that an intelligent person's vote will be needed to nullify your dumb-ass decisions.

Posted by: Eneils Bailey at August 15, 2007 09:15 PM

lester, you come up on the verge of a good argument, then show yourself as incapable with the claim that "outsourcing is good for America" is an example of Bush being wrong on substance. You might disagree with the opinion, but it is an opinion, not a piece of data that can be checked. One might give evidence for or against the proposition, but it is not on the order of debating whether Albany is the capital of New York.

Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at August 15, 2007 10:30 PM

whether you agree with it or not it was a gaffe. harriet miers, that was pretty gaffey. what is a fucking gaffe anyway? exactly. point is obama hasn't gone into hiding because of any of these things and he is still about where he was. "he said this" "so and so said that". isn't this the type of right wing blogging that got us stuck in iraq?

Posted by: lester at August 16, 2007 11:53 AM

No, it wasn't a gaffe. I'm pretty sure he meant it and that it was something he had thought about beforehand, not just shooting from the hip. Regarding Harriet Miers, it would have been an equivalent mistake to Obama's if he had nominated her and found out that she'd died a year earlier, or had nominated "Helen" Miers, or overlooked that she hadn't passed the bar.

This is a language and logical distinction you are missing. If you believe that everything negative about a politician is automatically germane to any specific discussion, then I don't think I can explain it to you. Perhaps examples would help. If we were discussing candidate appearance and demeanor, how they dressed and how old they looked would be up for discussion; what their position on a border fence is would be a distraction. But if we were discussing immigration, then the fence would be pertinent and the clothes not. It's just a question of staying focused on topic so that actual discussion might take place.

Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at August 16, 2007 12:38 PM

so you are upset that I confused gaffe with bushian word scew up. because there is apparently a world of difference between obama calling the prime minister of canada "president" and Bush talking about "nuclear power pants" or something. it is, in fact, a different type of stupidity. Sorry I offended you.

Posted by: lester at August 16, 2007 12:43 PM

Your example, Lester, shows exactly what we are talking about.

Bush might have mispronounced 'nukular' - but that is not a substantive mistake.

Erroneously thinking that Canada has a president, on the other hand, is a substantive error.

Posted by: Ken McCacken at August 16, 2007 02:42 PM

It's still kind of stupid to say "nuclear power pants"

riddle me this what if John Mcain were to say , on the subject of tariffs "In an emergency you can shit on a puerto rican whore"

now would that be erroneous thinking or a substantitive error?

Posted by: lester at August 16, 2007 04:22 PM

I am not even going to dignify that with a response Lester.

Posted by: Ken McCacken at August 16, 2007 04:33 PM

lol I was just joking around man.

Posted by: lester at August 16, 2007 05:11 PM

Come on Lester, if you are an anti-spender you must be an okay guy I am guessing. You don't need to stoop to that.

Posted by: Ken McCacken at August 16, 2007 05:33 PM

I'm sorry mr mcCacken

Posted by: lester at August 16, 2007 06:34 PM

"nukular" is more of a regionalism than a mispronunciation. Some nuclear scientists who come from the south and work at the Oak Ridge TN, facility say "nukular."

Being from New England, "nukular" sounds dumb to me. But I have studied enough linguistics to know that this is a social and cultural response on my part.

Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at August 17, 2007 09:43 AM

AVI,
"Usage Note: The pronunciation (nky-lr), which is generally considered incorrect, is an example of how a familiar phonological pattern can influence an unfamiliar one. The usual pronunciation of the final two syllables of this word is (-kl-r), but this sequence of sounds is rare in English. Much more common is the similar sequence (-ky-lr), which occurs in words like particular, circular, spectacular, and in many scientific words like molecular, ocular, and vascular." Reference is the " freedictionary.com.

I think a mind that finds you offensive because they can not mount a decent rebuttal to your ideas will point to and emphasize some personal or regional differences.

I know, I am from the South, and when I go to Boston, people invariably look down to see if I am wearing shoes.

Posted by: Eneils Bailey at August 19, 2007 11:08 AM

Eneils, you are very correct. Hollywood has long since identified stupid with drawl.

I do find it interesting to note that the left hasn't made the same connection with Fred Thompson...yet.

Posted by: k2aggie07 at August 20, 2007 09:31 PM