Anyone want to bet that the AP "fact check" consisted of going back and adding up the numbers reported in AP stories?

Which means that the accuracy of that check is no better than the original story - in other words, not accurate at all.

...but the black Dan Quayle will get a free pass 'cause he's a liberal.

(also erroneously posted below)

Uh Oh...

Don't overlook his singing. That's what killed it for me.

Barack Obama is highly underwhelming.

Can you imagine what the response would have been if a Republican candidate had engaged in such boneheaded saber-rattling with Pakistan, as Obama has done in the last few weeks? My God, it would have been a bloodbath on an epic scale.

I'll take a gaffe like "potatoe" any day over the ones committed by this assclown.

"That would be an act of even-handed fairness and detached journalism, which the AP continually proves itself incapable of." Ken McCracken

"The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood." Thomas Jefferson

"Gee, when they start printing the New York Times on Charmin Quality news print, I might buy one again." Blue Jack Tyner(my down the street neighbor)

this is just right wing blogger stuff. If people think he is the second coming they don't care about "gaffes" or youthfull indescretions. Bush proved that

News flash to lester...ding...ding...ding.

This is not about GWB, and oh, by the way, has any one told you yet that GWB is not running next year?

I guess you guys really know that, but just can't shake the Bush Derangement Syndrome.

"If people think he is the second coming they don't care about "gaffes" or youthfull indescretions."

I will agree to that.

But for a large percentage of the mature and knowledgeable population, when a person publicly addresses domestic and foreign issues in attempt to be elected President in fifteen month, his "gaffes" and "youthful indiscretions" must be taken seriously.

then how did bush , the undisputed gaffe master, get elected?

Bush's gaffes were only mistakes in grammar or pronunciation.

He doesn't make huge fricking errors on substance.

"outsourcing is good for america!"

Well if you're a free market capitalist, outsourcing is good for America. Its just bad for individual Americans.

Seriously lester,

Do you actually realize how demented and self absorbed in your own obsessions you have become?

Go get a life or something that will help you. You come across as a stubborn, undisciplined, pot-smoking, teen-ager.

For the sake of compromise, I will concede that you see GWB as the source of your political hatred and you have been trying to convince us for a long time. Your point has been made, now go seek a cure.

lester,

You are the highest form of a coward. You can not express an idea without attaching and demeaning an individual to make your pitiful rebuttals to political ideas. There are a lot of things about GWB I don't like. But there are some things I would stand beside him and defend him to the end. And you know what, I don't think for one second that this country is not better off for having Bush as President over either Gore or Kerry.

Which democrat are you going to vote for in the next election, the one that hates Bush the most, or the one that can come up with the snappiest one-liner bumper sticker slogan in support of barbarians who want to annihilate us.

The sad thing about our Constitution Republic is that an intelligent person's vote will be needed to nullify your dumb-ass decisions.

lester, you come up on the verge of a good argument, then show yourself as incapable with the claim that "outsourcing is good for America" is an example of Bush being wrong on substance. You might disagree with the opinion, but it is an opinion, not a piece of data that can be checked. One might give evidence for or against the proposition, but it is not on the order of debating whether Albany is the capital of New York.

whether you agree with it or not it was a gaffe. harriet miers, that was pretty gaffey. what is a fucking gaffe anyway? exactly. point is obama hasn't gone into hiding because of any of these things and he is still about where he was. "he said this" "so and so said that". isn't this the type of right wing blogging that got us stuck in iraq?

No, it wasn't a gaffe. I'm pretty sure he meant it and that it was something he had thought about beforehand, not just shooting from the hip. Regarding Harriet Miers, it would have been an equivalent mistake to Obama's if he had nominated her and found out that she'd died a year earlier, or had nominated "Helen" Miers, or overlooked that she hadn't passed the bar.

This is a language and logical distinction you are missing. If you believe that everything negative about a politician is automatically germane to any specific discussion, then I don't think I can explain it to you. Perhaps examples would help. If we were discussing candidate appearance and demeanor, how they dressed and how old they looked would be up for discussion; what their position on a border fence is would be a distraction. But if we were discussing immigration, then the fence would be pertinent and the clothes not. It's just a question of staying focused on topic so that actual discussion might take place.

so you are upset that I confused gaffe with bushian word scew up. because there is apparently a world of difference between obama calling the prime minister of canada "president" and Bush talking about "nuclear power pants" or something. it is, in fact, a different type of stupidity. Sorry I offended you.

Your example, Lester, shows exactly what we are talking about.

Bush might have mispronounced 'nukular' - but that is not a substantive mistake.

Erroneously thinking that Canada has a president, on the other hand, is a substantive error.

It's still kind of stupid to say "nuclear power pants"

riddle me this what if John Mcain were to say , on the subject of tariffs "In an emergency you can shit on a puerto rican whore"

now would that be erroneous thinking or a substantitive error?

I am not even going to dignify that with a response Lester.

lol I was just joking around man.

Come on Lester, if you are an anti-spender you must be an okay guy I am guessing. You don't need to stoop to that.

I'm sorry mr mcCacken

"nukular" is more of a regionalism than a mispronunciation. Some nuclear scientists who come from the south and work at the Oak Ridge TN, facility say "nukular."

Being from New England, "nukular" sounds dumb to me. But I have studied enough linguistics to know that this is a social and cultural response on my part.

AVI,
"Usage Note: The pronunciation (nky-lr), which is generally considered incorrect, is an example of how a familiar phonological pattern can influence an unfamiliar one. The usual pronunciation of the final two syllables of this word is (-kl-r), but this sequence of sounds is rare in English. Much more common is the similar sequence (-ky-lr), which occurs in words like particular, circular, spectacular, and in many scientific words like molecular, ocular, and vascular." Reference is the " freedictionary.com.

I think a mind that finds you offensive because they can not mount a decent rebuttal to your ideas will point to and emphasize some personal or regional differences.

I know, I am from the South, and when I go to Boston, people invariably look down to see if I am wearing shoes.

Eneils, you are very correct. Hollywood has long since identified stupid with drawl.

I do find it interesting to note that the left hasn't made the same connection with Fred Thompson...yet.