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Dozens Of Iranians And Syrians Killed In Nerve Gas Accident

. . . but it happened way back in July.

The Jerusalem Post is reporting the following:

Proof of cooperation between Iran and Syria in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was brought to light Monday in a Jane's Magazine report that dozens of Iranian engineers and 15 Syrian officers were killed in a July 23 accident in Syria.

According to the report, cited by Channel 10, the joint Syrian-Iranian team was attempting to mount a chemical warhead on a scud missile when the explosion occurred, spreading lethal chemical agents, including sarin nerve gas and VX gas.

The factory was created specifically for the purposes of altering ballistic missiles to carry chemical payloads, the magazine report claimed.

Could these nerve gasses have originally come from Saddam Hussein? Iraqi General Georges Sada claimed that Iraq sent its WMDs to Syria, a claim that has never been disproven.

Now Jane's is an extremely well-respected reporting institution, and this is big big news. Or it should be. How come we hadn't heard about this?

Update: Ynet is also reporting on this story, also based on the Jane's article - with a few more facts:

According to the report by the British magazine, the explosion occurred early in the morning on July 26, in a factory in the city of Halab, as the officers were attempting to mount a chemical warhead with mustard gas on a Scud-C missile.

A fire which started in the missile's engine led to an explosion near a storage location of chemical substances. The blast spread lethal chemical agents, including mustard gas, VX gas and sarin nerve gas, which are considered extremely toxic and are banned for use according to international treaties.

GlobalSecurity.org's in-depth article on Syria's well-established chemical weapons program tells us that Syria is not a signatory to the international conventions on chemical and biological weapons, nor has it signed the Nuclear Test-Ban Treaty.

Syria has a "robust chemical weapons program, perhaps one of the most advanced in the Middle East, and a variety of delivery methods." Syria also has huge reserves of the phosphates needed to manufacture them. Fortunately, they do not have the means to manufacture many of the precursors required for these weapons - "the country is still very depending on outside assistance in procuring important precursor chemicals and equipment."

Syria also has the means to deliver such weapons:

  • Four SSM brigades: 1 with FROG, 1 with Scud Bs, 1 with Scud Cs, and 1 with SS-21s.
  • "several thousand aerial bombs, filled mostly with sarin," and between 50 to 100 ballistic missile warheads.
  • New long range North Korean Scud Cs, with ranges of up to 600 kilometers and possible nerve gas warheads.
  • May be converting some long range surface-to-air and naval cruise missiles to use chemical warheads.
  • SS-21 launchers and at least 36 SS-21 missiles with 80-100 kilometers range.
  • Scud B launchers and Scud B missiles with 310 kilometers range.
  • Short range M-1B missiles
  • SS-N-3, and SSC-1b cruise missiles.
  • Su-24 long range strike fighters.
  • MiG-23BM Flogger F fighter ground attack aircraft.
  • Su-20 fighter ground attack aircraft.
  • Su-22 fighter ground attack aircraft.
  • Multiple rocket launchers and tube artillery.

Posted by Ken McCracken · 18 September 2007 05:50 PM

Comments

Uh oh! That would mean WMD's...

Posted by: zsa zsa at September 18, 2007 06:29 PM

I think Bigfoot was helping them too. Him and elvis brought them over in Elvis's pink UFO.

story is FAKE

Posted by: lester at September 18, 2007 06:44 PM

IF this were Bill Clinton's war I wonder what you would be saying, lester? Hmmm...

Posted by: zsa zsa at September 18, 2007 06:56 PM

Hey lester, the Syrian government admitted this story was true, but they did not release the details about Iranian involvement.

Don't you feel pretty stupid right now?

Posted by: Ken McCacken at September 18, 2007 07:18 PM

I think Bigfoot was helping them too. Him and elvis brought them over in Elvis's pink UFO.

No, that was not me. It was Chewbacca. However, I can see how some might get us confused.

Posted by: Bigfoot at September 18, 2007 07:26 PM

Bigfoot is much more manly than Chewbacca.

Posted by: zsa zsa at September 18, 2007 08:11 PM

zsa zsa- yes. i opposed kosovo and somalia.

i tried to read the article at janes but you need a subscription. big surprise.

at any rate, who cares? does anyone think syria or even Iran are going to launch chemical warheads at the continental US? They would need a giant catapult

Posted by: lester at September 19, 2007 08:28 AM

Well lester, considering that Iran is developing the Shahab-4, which is a missile capable of launching satellites into orbit, it appears that Iran will indeed have its catapault.

Posted by: Ken McCacken at September 19, 2007 09:31 AM

lester, Do you just oppose protecting our Nation? OR is it just war in general?

Posted by: zsa zsa at September 19, 2007 09:57 AM

I'd actually like to reader a full expression of your views on the subject of warfare, lester. Around here you mostly just lauch sniper attacks about how foolish everyone else is. I'd be interested if you have some consistent philosophy underneath it.

Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at September 19, 2007 10:32 AM

I'm not opposed to defending our nation at all. i just don't see iran as a threat to us.

Do you think iran WANTS war with the US? i don't. i think Bush wants war with them though.

i AM generally antiwar though as "war is the health of the state" the government grows, often breaks the law and is lionized as an extension of the people during war. You'd think liberals invented it and they probably did.

All spending is liberal. I'm conservative. hence, i am anti war.

Posted by: lester at September 19, 2007 02:55 PM

Yes I do think Iran, OR at least the leader of Iran wants war with US. lester, No one wants war. Ideally it would be wonderful to be at Peace with everyone. That is just not the way Islam crazed leaders want it. Ahmadinejihad is a REAL threat. AND is eager to bomb US and Israel and anyone else they wish to terrorize. Ahmadinejihad IS a terrorist. There are several people willing to identify him as such. The USA needs to always take measures to protect it's citizens.

Posted by: zsa zsa at September 19, 2007 03:21 PM

lester... Do you know there are Islamic compounds popping up right here in the USA in rural areas that are tied with extremist terrorists. Virginia. California, New York State, Colorado, Georgia. etc... Sheikh Gilani runs a group called Muslims of America from Pakistan. The members are required to send 30% of their income to Pakistan. The members have a history of violence. Members firebombed Hindu and Hare Krishna Temples. Assasisnated two rival Muslim leaders. A Colorado compound has weapons stashed and plans for terrorist attacks. The shoe bomber Richard Reed and the beltway sniper, John Allen Mohammed are two of Sheikh Gilani's followers... Street signs are named after terrorist leaders in Red House Virginia.

Posted by: zsa zsa at September 20, 2007 05:17 AM

Regardless of the accuracy of your sentiments lester, they are little more than bumper-sticker statements. You can have whatever views you want, for whatever reason, but automatic quotes of any kind don't lead to discussion. "All spending is liberal." What the hell does that mean? "I think Bush wants to go to war with Iran." On what basis? With what evidence? What is the danger from Iran, and how might it manifest? What type of response is appropriate?

Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at September 20, 2007 09:12 AM

Take a look at the Anti Defamation League. It has alot of interesting facts about the real threat of Terrorism here in the USA.

Posted by: zsa zsa at September 20, 2007 01:02 PM

" There are several people willing to identify him as such."

oh that changes everything then. let the bombing comence imediately.


I saw Ahmedenjad on 60 minutes. He didn't seem crazy to me. and he didn't say anythign about wanting to go to war with either the US or israel.

You don't think there are people in this country pushing for war with iran? google: israel lobby iran. there have been editorials literally titled "the US needs to bomb iran".

ass village idiot- big government is liberal. agreed? small goverment is conservative. therefore it makes sense to measure the relative liberalism of an adminstration via the amount of spending it does. The State, rather than individuals, spending money is a liberal act. regardless of what it is being spent on. spending increases the size of the state therfore spending is liberal. this is my belief

Posted by: lester at September 20, 2007 03:38 PM

You explained the bumper-sticker idea. It's still a bumper-sticker idea.

You have a fairly simple narrative of how the world works. Most of it seems to come from a fairly narrow range of American political opinion. I don't think I would suggest that you read conservatives just yet. Just read the opinions of people from other eras and other POV's.

Posted by: Assistant Village Idiot at September 20, 2007 04:38 PM

You fools. This has nothing to do with the USA or Europe. President “tom” (Mahmood I’m-a-whack-job) says on almost a daily basis that he wants to wipe Israel off the map. He also believes that if he can start a huge war, it will usher in the islamic messiah. If “tom” get’s a weapon that can hit Israel, what do you think he’s going to do with it? He is an irrational mad-man seeking a first-strike capability and doesn’t care about the consequences.

Posted by: joe at September 21, 2007 12:36 AM

"on almost a daily basis" lol

joe- if it's that dire then thepeople of israel should leave. if the neighbors are irrational enough to risk the lives of 70 million people (Iran) just to bomb Israel then there is no hope. Thanks for convincing me that the creation of Israel was a HUGE mistake.

ass village- thanks for the tip, drip

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